Setup Flukso

i currently have a Current Cost ENVIR unit but looking to measure water.

if i buy a Flukso to replace my CC ENVIR can i export my data directly to PVoutput.org?

does the Flukso require a computer to handle export of the data or does it handle it itself?

is flukso capable of exporting data in 5 min intervals ?

i read in the forums that the water usage isnt live.. is this able to be worked out in 5 min intervals aswell?

Can i extend the Water probe cables 6-8m? as my water meter is about that far from my meterbox and the cable is only 2m long

if the power or wifi goes down is the unit capable of holding the data until its able to be uploaded? and for how long?

B-Man's picture

ok so i have found going deeper into the forums that extending the water probe cable does not appear to be an issue.

the unit is capable of holding data but is that for a loss of power or loss of wifi. and still not sure how long

still unsure on the other questions

Ryton's picture

Quite a long list of questions :-). I'm not the expert here, but I'll try to answer those I can:

>>if i buy a Flukso to replace my CC ENVIR can i export my data directly to PVoutput.org?
Yes. You can enter the flukso ID, sensor Id & token in PVoutput.org, but ONLY electrical data, not water data (as far as I know).

>> does the Flukso require a computer to handle export of the data or does it handle it itself?
No, it does it by itself, if connected to the network. It is a micro-computer itself, comparable to a raspberry-pi.

> is flukso capable of exporting data in 5 min intervals ?
no and no. You can see the water draws on the graph on flukso.net, but there it is merged to 15 minutes intervals for the previous day, and 1 hr interval for previous weeks. Alternatively, the flukso unit DOES store/post the raw data (pulse timing information) on your personal network trough mosquito, but as far as I know, there is no data export implemented (let alone 5 minute intervals). However, recently the TMPO files have been implemented as data storage on the FLM, with variable time range and depth. Maybe these can be exported/reworked to 5 minute data.

>> if the power or wifi goes down is the unit capable of holding the data until its able to be uploaded?
>> and for how long?
If wifi goes down, then yes, data is temporarily stored. I dont know how long, but since data storage doesnt take much space, especially with TMPO compression , I assume a couple of weeks. If power goes down, however, the unit also powers down, since it is a piece of electronics, witouth battery

icarus75's picture

Tmpo, which is currently in beta, will store your sensor data in highest resolution on the server. Historical time series will never be downsampled. Tmpo blocks are cached locally on the FLM in FIFO fashion. So when the flash is nearly full the oldest blocks will be purged. The largest tmpo block is called a block20 and will contain time series data for 2^20secs = 18days. The flash can easily store multiple block20's per sensor. So you're looking at at least 100+ days of local storage. The smallest tmpo block is a block8 and is generated every 256secs. Each time a block8/12/16/20 is generated by tmpod, it is uploaded to the Flukso server if the FLM is connected to the internet.

B-Man's picture

thanks guys looks like it does what i'm after.

disappointed i spent so much on the CC ENVIR now tossing up whether to get a flukso or not

B-Man's picture

one last thing.
if i have 3 phase can i connect it with 1 clamp?
and how do the ports work? can i have 1 analog (3 phase) and 4 pulse ports?

icarus75's picture

The FLM02B can be configured as 1x analog (= clamp) and 4x pulse. Alternatively 3x analog and 2x pulse. See the Fluksometer Manual [1] section 2.2 for more details. You will require 3 clamps for measuring a 3-phase system.

[1] https://www.flukso.net/files/flm02/manual.pdf