Any idea if flukso sensors would work with this device?
http://www.elstermetering.com/en/V200_V210.html
It looks like there is pulse connection possible , but it's not clear where to connect it to
Thanks
Any idea if flukso sensors would work with this device?
http://www.elstermetering.com/en/V200_V210.html
It looks like there is pulse connection possible , but it's not clear where to connect it to
Thanks
I cannot deduct this from the datasheet either. Try locating the magnet inside the water meter with a compass. The meter constant is clearly 1L per pulse.
Can you tell something from this picture?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U9o4G3ZSwWY/UDi9r14qU9I/AAAAAAAAET8/0...
This small half circle metal piece looks like a magnet , so logically you need to mount sensor on top of it ,right?
Initially I got a very old water meter, no possibility to install a probe for my Flukso. I asked the water company for a replacement and they came with a meter similar to the V200. I saw also the metal plate, but before the replacement I tested this metal piece with a compass and found out that it was NOT magnetic, so I insisted for a other model and finally I got a V100 , installed the probe from Flukso and now it works perfect.
After a few days of analyzing my water consumption I detected to my great surprise that the water softener was regenerating every night at 2 pm wasting a lot of water and salt.. The system is defect and must be repaired. Thanks to FLUKSO I am saving a lot of money.
An happy Flukso user.
There should be a magnet inside the V200. The datasheet mentions that you can hook up a PR6 [1] to the V200 with a pulse output per liter of water consumption.
[1] http://www.elstermesstechnik.de/downloads/Falcon_D_1402e_1008.pdf
You have to connect a proximity switch, so i do it...the half moon s not magnetix by me....it's only metal...
i want to put pictures but i don't know how, howevere the pictures i have them already earlyer publiched on this forum :)
@Laroyj I agree with you, the metal plate is not magnetic
The PR6 sensor from Elster has a battery inside. Probably it works with some inductif principle. It does not need a magnet. The PR6 fits right above the small 'half moon' metal plate.
This "metal plate" is called a "Cyble target" and indeed works inductively; see https://www.itron.com/PublishedContent/Cyble_Sensor_pb_EN_12-11.pdf for an explanation; as utilities regard magnets not tamper-proof, they partly switched to this type of sensoring (or refuse to give a sensor capability at all - like in my case)
Do you have any idea how to get Flukso compatible sensor for devices like this ?
See http://www.eurooriental.com/schlumberger/cyble.pdf - the 2-wire sensor variant should be FLM-compatible; from the description creative minds may determine a little microcontroller hack that would also provide access - let your ideas float (I have a guess, but no solution)
It should work with an Photo electric switch
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281334726852?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid...
Any idea where to buy this 2 wire schlumberger sensor ?
Photo Electric switch doesn't sound like easy enough solution for me ;)
Easy to connect. Resistor not needed on mine.
May need to shade around sensor. I have trouble with the sun on mine and I dont have that nice shiny piece like yours, so Ive disconnected at the moment until I can get something to make the needle shine.
I used cat 5 wire, 20meters long :)
http://www23.zippyshare.com/v/21538345/file.html
Nice to see that this drawing is still used !
See how i did it on my V200 10 months ago :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dm78k2k8xmpv2n0/Watermeter.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v34ql9vqpfb93an/Water%20sensor%20detectie.JPG?...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mus4jl4fu3zsszx/Water%20opto-sensor.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/al0ng15jmyih71m/Water-sensor.JPG?dl=0
Still working without any problem.
I have no pulse ports available on flukso anymore
I was wondering if it would be possible to connect something like this to Arduino or Raspberry pi and send reading to flukso via MQTT or some other way?
Does anybody knows if it is possible ?
Thanks in advance
Sem
Yes , it is; the FLM's MQTT broker takes whatever MQTT messages it gets - https://www.flukso.net/content/use-flms-mqtt-broker-further-extending-yo... - at the moment the FLM actually does nothing with the additional information, so you need to step ahead from the FLM and use an external information visualization or use the direct-display-method explained in https://www.flukso.net/content/flm-mqtt-broker-support-web-sockets
From the "develop" code I see that with the upcoming FluksoKube this may change and the FLM will become a home controller for whatever information.
so currently this information would not be pushed to flukso.net server but in the future it might change ?
so currently this information would not be pushed to flukso.net server but in the future it might change ?
Locally yes, cloud/flukso.net I doubt.
hm
so the only way to connect water meter for me is to buy additional flukso device. Not really what I was looking for. Different ID different management. Not nice
Just out of curiosity... What do you expect? And for how long do you expect? You bought an FLM some time ago with a well-defined behavior, means number of ports and a corresponding web presence and storage. You get firmware updates that even provide functionality that goes beyond what you actually purchased; with a really nice feature that allows to route also extra sensor data; even it is capable by open source software (see above) to present its own and additional data from its own presence... That is not nice? Because you don't get a cloud storage and open environment "for free"? Don't get me wrong, I am just a puzzled FLM user... (BTW: with the open source software and a "hole" in the own router's firewall it is possible to look at own data from anywhere)
if I could upload directly to something like pvoutput or my own server without flukso server it would be even better. I just want to have it in one place.
Yes, but then MQTT is THE solution... (and an Arduino for additional sensors) - it is straight forward --> https://github.com/gebhardm/energyhacks/tree/master/AVRNetIOduino/AVRNet...
MQTT can only solve realtime reading task
not providing historical data task
Wrong - you can, of course, store the messages, if you set up a respective server... --> https://github.com/gebhardm/flmdisplay/tree/master/combined
By the way, with firmware v2.4.4 following the FLM itself keeps its data. Have a look around the forum; there are plenty of evidences on how to beef up you fluksometer...
I don't have 2.4.4 yet
I tried script you send on ubuntu but looks like autodiscovery of MQTT doesn't work
I got this message but I'm not 100% sure this is a problem
*** WARNING *** The program 'node' called 'DNSServiceRegister()' which is not supported (or only supported partially) in the Apple Bonjour compatibility layer of Avahi.
*** WARNING *** Please fix your application to use the native API of Avahi!
*** WARNING *** For more information see
ignore it
seems to work after restart :)
thanks . I would look into it, looks interesting
Markus ,
I installed you script, and it works very nice
The only question I'm having is why do you store such a precise information like second readings? Why no aggregation to the 1 min or 5/10 min or something. How useful are second readings ?
Thanks
The simple answer is "for experimental reasons" - see https://energyhacks.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/peak-load-part-2/ - feel free to aggregate or use an aggregation function on the database itself.
nota bene: with tmpo becoming active on the FLM, the storage will be obsolete unless you care for more than 256 seconds of accuracy... here the retrieve is missing in Bart's code still.